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The American Express Mess

A company that never cared about its customers

January 2008 By Denny Hatch
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In the News

WILL THEY LEAVE THE CARD BEHIND?
American Express CEO Faces Latest Downturn Holding a Better Hand

New York — In recent years, Kenneth Chenault has been the credit card industry’s darling, guiding American Express Co. to tremendous prosperity amid intense competition. Now, AmEx’s chief is trying to stay on top of the heap during the third economic downturn of his 27-year career at the company.
Robin Sidel, The Wall Street Journal, January 26, 2007
What triggered this column was a letter to this publication from Anthony Greene in London on my musings last week about how to gussy up important e-mails in order to give them gravitas. In our exchange, he wrote:

Thank you, Denny. A nice and utterly relevant piece. Your story about the Ticketmaster e-mail, and how much you appreciated their thoughtfulness, has reminded me of what I regard as one of the greatest missed opportunities in the history of marketing. Every time I use my American Express Centurion Card I cannot help but notice the following words printed on the front, “MEMBER SINCE 82”. So, during the whole of last year, every time I used the card a lightening thought crossed my mind, “Gosh, that’s 25 years!” But did American Express remember this auspicious occasion? Unfortunately no. Despite having the relevant data, there was no email, no thank-you card, no offer, no invitation to spend more, no phone call. Nothing. That really made me feel that American Express doesn’t give a damn about my custom and 25 years of brand loyalty. I would recommend for American Express to headhunt the marketing people from Ticketmaster, who at least know how to show they care!

I go back 58 years with American Express.

Anthony Greene is correct.

Backgrounder
In 1949 my biographer/historian father Alden Hatch was contracted to create the official biography of the American Express Company on the anniversary of its centenary the following year.

The company had a storied past, beginning with its founding in 1850 as an express delivery service by Henry Wells, William G. Fargo (as in Wells Fargo) and John Butterfield. In 1882 it started a money order business, and nine years later introduced the traveler’s checque. Early in the twentieth century, it entered the travel business and began opening branch offices around the world that became headquarters, banks and post offices for American voyagers and expats. If you wanted to contact a friend or family member anywhere in the world, you needed only the itinerary and then to write the person c/o American Express Office in a distant city. It would be held until the person picked it up. When you received a letter from a friend from abroad, the return address could well have been:
American Express
Venice

Takeaway Points to Consider:

* “Always say ‘thank-you.’ It’s the polite thing to do.”
—Roger Craver

* “Consumers are neither sheep nor fools. They can sense when companies are consistently more loyal to investors, employees and regulators than to the people who buy their products and services. They behave accordingly. Customers are not being disloyal; they are being discriminating. The central marketing question confronting brand leaders therefore is not, “how can we radically increase customer loyalty?” but, “how can we radically increase our own loyalty to customers?”
—Michael Scrage, FinancialTimes.com, “Customers want loyalty not perfection,” May 1, 2007

* “The Consumer is not a moron. She is your wife.”
David Ogilvy

* A couple of times a year, the great direct mail expert, Axel Andersson, would come to Stamford—and later to Philly after we moved here—to spend time in our direct mail archive and hours working in his hotel room studying duplicate mailings. In Philly, he always stayed at the low-cost Comfort Inn on Race Street in the middle of Chinatown. “Why should I stay at the Marriott or the Four Seasons?” he said. “Of course I can afford them. But all I will run into are people just like me. If you are in marketing, you have to mingle with the people you are marketing to.”

* “If you are in marketing, always take the streetcar or subway to work.”
—Axel Andersson

Web Sites Related to Today's Edition:

American Express
www.americanexpress.com

“Don’t Leave Your Castle Without It”—Ogilvy Commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSe3twDwm-M

The American Express Platinum Mailing
http://tinyurl.com/2nshgt

American Express Raises Fees, Cuts Rewards
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115439727634523033.html

American Express Big Write-Down
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120000076375181927.html

American Express Current Problems
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120131125655018537.html

A Web site not related to today’s edition:
If you are writing a book—or thinking about it, or know someone who has written a book or is working on one—here is the definitive white paper on book publishing statistics from Dan Poynter—the 2008 update. Read ‘em and weep.
http://tinyurl.com/2wazyk

For a free subscription to “Publishing Poynters: News, tips & resources on book writing, publishing and promoting. Twice each month.”
http://tinyurl.com/3cythl
 
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Gerold Braun - Posted on February 04, 2008
They don't care about their directmailing (winning new customers) approach too, at least in germany.

Today i received a mailing so dull and loveless made, that i wonder how they will get out of trouble.
The whole first paragraph states the obvious. Their angle is "new year" - everybody else is in February - and they try to win me over with: ".. round about 80% (of the germans) raise their glasses on New Year's Eve, preponderantly with sparkling wine."
Boy, that's news, that's relevant, that's timely.

It's obvious: They don't know what to say - do they have anything to say?
Robert Doscher - Posted on February 01, 2008
I've been a member of American Express for almost 40 years. I resisted the Platinum offer as I would never use thw benefits.

I was turned down by AE in 1969 after graduating from grad shool and going to work for Sports Illustrated. The SI ad sales rep, Bill Curren, facilitated the issuance of my card and I still have the same AE number.

I charged my kids tuition on it for the points and have used it for weddings, travel etc. as I'm sure everyone has.

On our honeymoon, many years ago, we were in Brussles and I used my Cart Blanche card at a hotel. The room was like 1839 Gilders and of course, my Carte Balnche bill showed $1839.00 US dollars. It was corrected quickly.

American Express does not, as a general rule, make those mistakes.

They may not acknowledge your anniversary or birthday, but then who needs that reminder....Maybe they know that. good service is better than reminding a customer that he's been a cusromer a Loooooong time.
Becky Rice - Posted on February 01, 2008
This is an important consideration for any business - both for profit and non-profit. Our Association is implementing an anniversary of membership thank you card program this year to help with maintaining loyalty and making our members feel good about the decision to join the organization. Just a little thank you goes a long way toward making them feel good about writing that check (or perhaps using their AmEx?) at renewal time!
Sue C - Posted on January 30, 2008
After being a good business customer for nearly two decades, AmEx just decided, even though we always pay our bills, that our current balance is too high and effectively shut us off. Needless to say, we're shutting THEM off.
Jonathan Glover - Posted on January 30, 2008
I fully agree that Amex days are now numbered. In fact, I just cancelled my Amex Card after using it for 10 years since their service has become hopelessly useless and their customer support is cold, unhelpful and rude with no regards to cuistomer loyalty.
Lawrence Hansen - Posted on January 29, 2008
I remember the TV commercials with Karl Malden for American Express travelers checks--"Don't leave home without 'em!" Despite the name recognition, I never considered getting an AmEx card--what, charge me to use the card? No way, I don't pay annual fees for credit cards. I don't even pay interest because I pay off the balance each month. Then, about 5 years ago, I got a solicitation for the AmEx "Blue" card, a traditional credit card without an annual fee. Oddly enough, I took one--partly because of the cachet of having an AmEx card, I guess. I used it a few times, then discovered (not a pun here!) I couldn't use it at as many places as my Visa and Mastercard.....and I learned AmEx charges merchants higher fees. I wasn't getting anything special to use a less convenient card, and by doing so I was taking money out of another guy's pocket. I cancelled the card. But I keep getting solicitations in the mail from AmEx for a Blue card. No, they're not trying to woo me back--the mailings contain no reference to my previous cardmembership. Clearly the department that solicits new customers doesn't check internal records for lapsed customers and tailor their marketing accordingly. I collect the little fake plastic Blue cards that come in the mail as a sort of desktop monument to poor direct marketing.
Barry Brown - Posted on January 29, 2008
Mr. Hatch, first off let me say though I've never commented on your ezine, it is my favorite and the only one I always read, no matter how busy I am.

I am not one to normally comment on an article you write, but this one re-opened a wound I received from Amex a couple weeks back.

I have had Amex cards for at least 10 years (always Platinum) and have paid my minimums when carrying a balance and usually keep the main card paid off.

I have an Amex line of credit corporate card that had a $21K line of credit which I have been paying on for about a year and was down to $16K.

I have never been late on this or any other credit card or personal payment but received letter from Amex stating that because I had too many inquiries into my credit history (I was looking into refinancing my home), they were cutting my credit limit to $16K.

Needless to say, this is like punishing your children for good grades.

When I called Amex regarding the issue, the wag on the other end of the line told me that I could have it reviewed a year from now. Ha!

Instead, I'll transfer the balance to a Bank of America Visa card and cancel that card. I don't need to be treated like barnyard waste.

Somebody needs to send this and all the below letters to Mr. Chenault. Please learn how to say "Thank You" properly, Mr. Chenault. Wake Up Amex!
J.D. Kinney - Posted on January 29, 2008
Have moved from Gold Card to Platinum because an AmEx rep called me a gave me a deal. Have been a Gold Card user since the nineties, Green ten years before that.
I depend on the card for online purchase disputes more than anything else, even travel. AmEx has bailed me out on any number of occassions when fraud was concerned.
However, as has been mentioned, when AmEx went defensive with the blue card and sold their holding company to a bank, service and control has gone by the wayside. I had to plead to 5 different reps before I found somebody who had been with AmEx long enough to care. Somebody should tell the CEO: "It's the database, stupid."
Steve R. - Posted on January 29, 2008
The lodging industry is just as bad. For 26 years I have been booking a golf vacation for a group of friends at the same Myrtle Beach resort. Last year I mentioned in my email to them, setting up the trip, that it was year 25. Never a thank you or even mention of the fact in their acknowledgment.
Richard Kennemer - Posted on January 29, 2008
Back in 1987 I got my first American Express card especially for use on a long family trip to Europe.

The fine print in the benefits section got me and American Express left me momentarily stranded in Amsterdam with a wife and 3 kids and 30 guilders.

When we got back from the trip, I cut the card up and sent it to them with a letter cancelling the account.

I haven't used American Express since.

A few years later, the company I worked for supplied company American Express cards to employees for travel expenses. I told them that if they wanted me to travel for them, they could get me a VISA card. They did.

Peter Blau - Posted on January 29, 2008
Denny,

Amex has changed from an elite service provider to a Citibank-like supermarket of dozens of credit card brands in hundreds of permutations (e.g. Delta SkyMiles Corporate Platinum.)

In doing so -- as you so aptly report -- they've abandoned any sort of personal service, and rely on the same ham-handed communications as everyone else. (Witness the systems letter sent to you signed by a clerk in Wilmington.)

You WOULD think that a $450 annual fee would still justify a different approach...to start with a "winback" pitch designed with some basic smarts.

PETER
Amy Fanter - Posted on January 29, 2008
This summer my husband and I recently decided to reduce to pay off all of our consumer debt and reduce our credit limits to "reasonable" amounts. While our other credit card companies have respected our requests to stop increasing our credit limits, 3 times in 4 months American Express increased our credit limit against our express instructions. More troubling, they sent letters saying,"Based on your recent request we have increased your limit..." YIKES! Talk about a great way to send a customer into orbit (or heart failure) in the these days of
identify fraud. The final blow was in December when they did it yet again. I love balance transfer offers, don't you?
A. Fanter
No longer a member since 1/08.
Max Bendel - Posted on January 29, 2008
When I switched from Green to Gold I had been an Amex customer for 9 years. When the switch was made, Amex started my SINCE date over. I wrote a letter to customer service about it because I was proud of those 9 years. Never heard from them. It annoyed me for years to come, every time I used the card. Finally, once when I was on the phone with a representative, I mentioned the loss of years. She said it was a mistake and fixed it. Now I am a good member since 1986. Dumb I know, but it made me feel better. Also, I could have made up a date if I wanted, they had no record of the actual date I was approved for the Green card..

I think the specialness of the American Express card has been lost. Amex diluted the brand with the Blue card and accepting what seems like just about anybody. Maybe the exclusive Black cardholders still get the special attention.

Amex also had problems with getting its website to work for a very long time. They lost me and I haven't been back.
kevin lavery - Posted on January 29, 2008
I too have been a member since 1980 with no recognition. Unforgiveable
Paul Galloway - Posted on January 29, 2008
Hi Denny,

Your mention of the American Express Platinum mailing reminded me of a job I had back in 1986 working for a company in Wichita KS.

I don't recall the name of the company -- "ABS" something or other -- but they are the ones who printed up the platinum card mailings.

They did other mailings too, but I distinctly remember the platinum card jobs because they were such a pain to deal with.

As I recall, I was running a bank of 12 automated typewriters -- Replacing ink or those ball-shaped typewriter heads, loading more letters, clearing the feeding mechanism, etc.

The first page of the letter would be fed in from a paper hopper. It was already printed, but our machines would then type the name and address along with the personalized salutation.

Those dang platinum edges were always fouling up the feeding mechanism.

Sometimes when we were short on staff, I'd run two banks of typewriters which allowed me to skip my aerobic workout later in the day. ;-)

I remember being impressed by the scope of the operation at that time . . .

Best,

Paul
Bilou - Posted on January 29, 2008
*I* have a 20th anniversary with AmEx this year, too! My senior year of college as a student majoring in Advertising, I saw acquisition marketing in action all over my campus, and AmEx was so enamored with me, they were willing to give me a card before I even had a job. I liked their ?Do you know me?? ads as well, and signed up.

I only purchased a shirt or something months later, to give the card some activity. I was moving, getting a job, getting married and moving again my first year after graduation. I forgot about the $50 or so purchase?and AmEx was too inept to run their files through any type of NCOA database, apparently.

They did manage to add on a monthly fee for many months in a row for non payment, prior to turning my account over to a collection agency?who had little trouble in tracking me down, two addresses later ? in the same state. I was informed that my balance was now several hundred dollars and my credit was ruined!

Needless to say, there is little AmEx could do now to gain the favor of this professional who has good credit and a much higher income than when they originally brought her on?
David Culbertson - Posted on January 29, 2008
Denny,

My "story" isn't about Amex, but it is about the failure of a golden brand to keep me as a customer.

I have subscribed to National Geographic magazine for many years. I recently received my annual renewal notice. The price seemed high, so I did some googling. In about 30 seconds, I found out that NG offers brand new subscribers a rate less than 1/2 what they offered to me.

As a long-time employee of AOL and CompuServe, I learned that it's cheaper to keep an existing subscriber than acquire a new one. Perhaps NG's numbers are different.

I called and canceled my subscription immediately. I'll be reading NG magazine at the library from now on.
Jim Camey - Posted on January 29, 2008
I too was a long time AMEX 'member' with a little "since 1979' on my card. Used it in the UK, China, Tiawan, Australia...then one day the wife was paying bills and asked why I had a charge for a Holiday Inn in Houston. I looked at the statement and date of the charge and reminded her I was at home on that date and that the account number on the charge wasn't even my card number. "No problem, it's AMEX I'll just give them a call - after all I'm a member." Upon making the call I was told yes, the account number wasn't mine however my number was the closest one to what they had been given and they had to post every charge to an account so mine was 'it'. They would put the charge 'on hold' for me until Holiday Inn cleared it up. After escalating up the service chain of command without the charge removed, I said I think even after all these years I'll cancel my card. The immediate response was 'I can take care of that for you' and it was all over. Never was asked what it would take to keep me as a 'Member'. It was a sad customer relations day for me for I had always thought highly of AMEX.
Andrew Billmann - Posted on January 29, 2008
Like the world of medicine, a golden rule of database marketing should be "First, do no harm." In my personal experience, American Express has a huge database mess to clean up long before it can venture into customer-positive territory like the things you mention in your column.

I closed my AmEx business account nearly two years ago. Zero balance. Closed. I even have the confirmation letter. All done, right? Wrong.

I'm still receiving offers, letters, and--worst of all--balance transfer checks that urge me to use my $30,000 credit line any way I like. I always call, ask for written verification that the account is closed, and never receive it. I also ask what would happen if those blank checks were stolen and used in a fraudulent way. "You wouldn't be liable, sir" is the stock answer. Not exactly reassuring. In an age of computerized (i.e., shoddy) credit reporting and scoring, this goes beyond poor marketing and enters the waters of downright negligence.

It's amazing to me that a company like AmEx tries to position itself as a business-friendly helper and advisor, yet its own operations are so profoundly screwed up.
Mark Pilipczuk - Posted on January 29, 2008
Thank you for another interesting article.

I've found AmEx to be troubling since 1993 or so. Pity I wasn't around to experience the glory days.

I've always liked the idea of having and using an AmEx card, but their execution has always let me down. My first experience was in 1993 as a new manager, moving up the corporate ladder at IMP in Stamford, when I signed up for an AmEx gold card. I'd made it!

Imagine my horror at the very first use of the card when, in attempting to pay for a team luncheon totaling perhaps $150, the card was declined. Luckily, I had another card with which to pay.

I was so incensed, I called AmEx and cancelled that very day. No apologies were offered over the phone nor was any attempt made to keep my business.

I tried a few years later and had exactly the same experience, although I forget the details.

I've since given up on AmEx. They haven't given up on me, however, mailing both myself and my wife 3 to 4 times per month.

Unfortunately, none of the cards are for a product I would even consider (a Platinum card). They stick with plebian products like the Blue Sky card.

Think they're trying to tell me something?
Lee Marc Stein - Posted on January 29, 2008
Denny,

I'm sorry that American Express has marked your record on its database as "Torture this person."

I have always received what I expected from American Express. I don't expect birthday or anniversary cards. I expect service.

Recently they called me (just like Tina Fey in the TV spots) to ask if I had charged $1414 in airline tickets to Chile. I told them no and they said they didn't think so and that someone got ahold of my number fraudulently. There would be no problem. They would cancel my card # immediately and FedEx out a new card to arrive within 24 hours. As they confirmed my address, they indeed thanked me for being a Gold Card holder for 25 years. The card arrived right on schedule.

That's worth more to me than a lot of empty "Thank you's".

The fact that their service matches their brand advertising on TV -- that I am actually treated the same way as Tina Fey, even though I'm not nearly as funny (or rich) is comforting.
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Gerold Braun - Posted on February 04, 2008
They don't care about their directmailing (winning new customers) approach too, at least in germany.

Today i received a mailing so dull and loveless made, that i wonder how they will get out of trouble.
The whole first paragraph states the obvious. Their angle is "new year" - everybody else is in February - and they try to win me over with: ".. round about 80% (of the germans) raise their glasses on New Year's Eve, preponderantly with sparkling wine."
Boy, that's news, that's relevant, that's timely.

It's obvious: They don't know what to say - do they have anything to say?
Robert Doscher - Posted on February 01, 2008
I've been a member of American Express for almost 40 years. I resisted the Platinum offer as I would never use thw benefits.

I was turned down by AE in 1969 after graduating from grad shool and going to work for Sports Illustrated. The SI ad sales rep, Bill Curren, facilitated the issuance of my card and I still have the same AE number.

I charged my kids tuition on it for the points and have used it for weddings, travel etc. as I'm sure everyone has.

On our honeymoon, many years ago, we were in Brussles and I used my Cart Blanche card at a hotel. The room was like 1839 Gilders and of course, my Carte Balnche bill showed $1839.00 US dollars. It was corrected quickly.

American Express does not, as a general rule, make those mistakes.

They may not acknowledge your anniversary or birthday, but then who needs that reminder....Maybe they know that. good service is better than reminding a customer that he's been a cusromer a Loooooong time.
Becky Rice - Posted on February 01, 2008
This is an important consideration for any business - both for profit and non-profit. Our Association is implementing an anniversary of membership thank you card program this year to help with maintaining loyalty and making our members feel good about the decision to join the organization. Just a little thank you goes a long way toward making them feel good about writing that check (or perhaps using their AmEx?) at renewal time!
Sue C - Posted on January 30, 2008
After being a good business customer for nearly two decades, AmEx just decided, even though we always pay our bills, that our current balance is too high and effectively shut us off. Needless to say, we're shutting THEM off.
Jonathan Glover - Posted on January 30, 2008
I fully agree that Amex days are now numbered. In fact, I just cancelled my Amex Card after using it for 10 years since their service has become hopelessly useless and their customer support is cold, unhelpful and rude with no regards to cuistomer loyalty.
Lawrence Hansen - Posted on January 29, 2008
I remember the TV commercials with Karl Malden for American Express travelers checks--"Don't leave home without 'em!" Despite the name recognition, I never considered getting an AmEx card--what, charge me to use the card? No way, I don't pay annual fees for credit cards. I don't even pay interest because I pay off the balance each month. Then, about 5 years ago, I got a solicitation for the AmEx "Blue" card, a traditional credit card without an annual fee. Oddly enough, I took one--partly because of the cachet of having an AmEx card, I guess. I used it a few times, then discovered (not a pun here!) I couldn't use it at as many places as my Visa and Mastercard.....and I learned AmEx charges merchants higher fees. I wasn't getting anything special to use a less convenient card, and by doing so I was taking money out of another guy's pocket. I cancelled the card. But I keep getting solicitations in the mail from AmEx for a Blue card. No, they're not trying to woo me back--the mailings contain no reference to my previous cardmembership. Clearly the department that solicits new customers doesn't check internal records for lapsed customers and tailor their marketing accordingly. I collect the little fake plastic Blue cards that come in the mail as a sort of desktop monument to poor direct marketing.
Barry Brown - Posted on January 29, 2008
Mr. Hatch, first off let me say though I've never commented on your ezine, it is my favorite and the only one I always read, no matter how busy I am.

I am not one to normally comment on an article you write, but this one re-opened a wound I received from Amex a couple weeks back.

I have had Amex cards for at least 10 years (always Platinum) and have paid my minimums when carrying a balance and usually keep the main card paid off.

I have an Amex line of credit corporate card that had a $21K line of credit which I have been paying on for about a year and was down to $16K.

I have never been late on this or any other credit card or personal payment but received letter from Amex stating that because I had too many inquiries into my credit history (I was looking into refinancing my home), they were cutting my credit limit to $16K.

Needless to say, this is like punishing your children for good grades.

When I called Amex regarding the issue, the wag on the other end of the line told me that I could have it reviewed a year from now. Ha!

Instead, I'll transfer the balance to a Bank of America Visa card and cancel that card. I don't need to be treated like barnyard waste.

Somebody needs to send this and all the below letters to Mr. Chenault. Please learn how to say "Thank You" properly, Mr. Chenault. Wake Up Amex!
J.D. Kinney - Posted on January 29, 2008
Have moved from Gold Card to Platinum because an AmEx rep called me a gave me a deal. Have been a Gold Card user since the nineties, Green ten years before that.
I depend on the card for online purchase disputes more than anything else, even travel. AmEx has bailed me out on any number of occassions when fraud was concerned.
However, as has been mentioned, when AmEx went defensive with the blue card and sold their holding company to a bank, service and control has gone by the wayside. I had to plead to 5 different reps before I found somebody who had been with AmEx long enough to care. Somebody should tell the CEO: "It's the database, stupid."
Steve R. - Posted on January 29, 2008
The lodging industry is just as bad. For 26 years I have been booking a golf vacation for a group of friends at the same Myrtle Beach resort. Last year I mentioned in my email to them, setting up the trip, that it was year 25. Never a thank you or even mention of the fact in their acknowledgment.
Richard Kennemer - Posted on January 29, 2008
Back in 1987 I got my first American Express card especially for use on a long family trip to Europe.

The fine print in the benefits section got me and American Express left me momentarily stranded in Amsterdam with a wife and 3 kids and 30 guilders.

When we got back from the trip, I cut the card up and sent it to them with a letter cancelling the account.

I haven't used American Express since.

A few years later, the company I worked for supplied company American Express cards to employees for travel expenses. I told them that if they wanted me to travel for them, they could get me a VISA card. They did.

Peter Blau - Posted on January 29, 2008
Denny,

Amex has changed from an elite service provider to a Citibank-like supermarket of dozens of credit card brands in hundreds of permutations (e.g. Delta SkyMiles Corporate Platinum.)

In doing so -- as you so aptly report -- they've abandoned any sort of personal service, and rely on the same ham-handed communications as everyone else. (Witness the systems letter sent to you signed by a clerk in Wilmington.)

You WOULD think that a $450 annual fee would still justify a different approach...to start with a "winback" pitch designed with some basic smarts.

PETER
Amy Fanter - Posted on January 29, 2008
This summer my husband and I recently decided to reduce to pay off all of our consumer debt and reduce our credit limits to "reasonable" amounts. While our other credit card companies have respected our requests to stop increasing our credit limits, 3 times in 4 months American Express increased our credit limit against our express instructions. More troubling, they sent letters saying,"Based on your recent request we have increased your limit..." YIKES! Talk about a great way to send a customer into orbit (or heart failure) in the these days of
identify fraud. The final blow was in December when they did it yet again. I love balance transfer offers, don't you?
A. Fanter
No longer a member since 1/08.
Max Bendel - Posted on January 29, 2008
When I switched from Green to Gold I had been an Amex customer for 9 years. When the switch was made, Amex started my SINCE date over. I wrote a letter to customer service about it because I was proud of those 9 years. Never heard from them. It annoyed me for years to come, every time I used the card. Finally, once when I was on the phone with a representative, I mentioned the loss of years. She said it was a mistake and fixed it. Now I am a good member since 1986. Dumb I know, but it made me feel better. Also, I could have made up a date if I wanted, they had no record of the actual date I was approved for the Green card..

I think the specialness of the American Express card has been lost. Amex diluted the brand with the Blue card and accepting what seems like just about anybody. Maybe the exclusive Black cardholders still get the special attention.

Amex also had problems with getting its website to work for a very long time. They lost me and I haven't been back.
kevin lavery - Posted on January 29, 2008
I too have been a member since 1980 with no recognition. Unforgiveable
Paul Galloway - Posted on January 29, 2008
Hi Denny,

Your mention of the American Express Platinum mailing reminded me of a job I had back in 1986 working for a company in Wichita KS.

I don't recall the name of the company -- "ABS" something or other -- but they are the ones who printed up the platinum card mailings.

They did other mailings too, but I distinctly remember the platinum card jobs because they were such a pain to deal with.

As I recall, I was running a bank of 12 automated typewriters -- Replacing ink or those ball-shaped typewriter heads, loading more letters, clearing the feeding mechanism, etc.

The first page of the letter would be fed in from a paper hopper. It was already printed, but our machines would then type the name and address along with the personalized salutation.

Those dang platinum edges were always fouling up the feeding mechanism.

Sometimes when we were short on staff, I'd run two banks of typewriters which allowed me to skip my aerobic workout later in the day. ;-)

I remember being impressed by the scope of the operation at that time . . .

Best,

Paul
Bilou - Posted on January 29, 2008
*I* have a 20th anniversary with AmEx this year, too! My senior year of college as a student majoring in Advertising, I saw acquisition marketing in action all over my campus, and AmEx was so enamored with me, they were willing to give me a card before I even had a job. I liked their ?Do you know me?? ads as well, and signed up.

I only purchased a shirt or something months later, to give the card some activity. I was moving, getting a job, getting married and moving again my first year after graduation. I forgot about the $50 or so purchase?and AmEx was too inept to run their files through any type of NCOA database, apparently.

They did manage to add on a monthly fee for many months in a row for non payment, prior to turning my account over to a collection agency?who had little trouble in tracking me down, two addresses later ? in the same state. I was informed that my balance was now several hundred dollars and my credit was ruined!

Needless to say, there is little AmEx could do now to gain the favor of this professional who has good credit and a much higher income than when they originally brought her on?
David Culbertson - Posted on January 29, 2008
Denny,

My "story" isn't about Amex, but it is about the failure of a golden brand to keep me as a customer.

I have subscribed to National Geographic magazine for many years. I recently received my annual renewal notice. The price seemed high, so I did some googling. In about 30 seconds, I found out that NG offers brand new subscribers a rate less than 1/2 what they offered to me.

As a long-time employee of AOL and CompuServe, I learned that it's cheaper to keep an existing subscriber than acquire a new one. Perhaps NG's numbers are different.

I called and canceled my subscription immediately. I'll be reading NG magazine at the library from now on.
Jim Camey - Posted on January 29, 2008
I too was a long time AMEX 'member' with a little "since 1979' on my card. Used it in the UK, China, Tiawan, Australia...then one day the wife was paying bills and asked why I had a charge for a Holiday Inn in Houston. I looked at the statement and date of the charge and reminded her I was at home on that date and that the account number on the charge wasn't even my card number. "No problem, it's AMEX I'll just give them a call - after all I'm a member." Upon making the call I was told yes, the account number wasn't mine however my number was the closest one to what they had been given and they had to post every charge to an account so mine was 'it'. They would put the charge 'on hold' for me until Holiday Inn cleared it up. After escalating up the service chain of command without the charge removed, I said I think even after all these years I'll cancel my card. The immediate response was 'I can take care of that for you' and it was all over. Never was asked what it would take to keep me as a 'Member'. It was a sad customer relations day for me for I had always thought highly of AMEX.
Andrew Billmann - Posted on January 29, 2008
Like the world of medicine, a golden rule of database marketing should be "First, do no harm." In my personal experience, American Express has a huge database mess to clean up long before it can venture into customer-positive territory like the things you mention in your column.

I closed my AmEx business account nearly two years ago. Zero balance. Closed. I even have the confirmation letter. All done, right? Wrong.

I'm still receiving offers, letters, and--worst of all--balance transfer checks that urge me to use my $30,000 credit line any way I like. I always call, ask for written verification that the account is closed, and never receive it. I also ask what would happen if those blank checks were stolen and used in a fraudulent way. "You wouldn't be liable, sir" is the stock answer. Not exactly reassuring. In an age of computerized (i.e., shoddy) credit reporting and scoring, this goes beyond poor marketing and enters the waters of downright negligence.

It's amazing to me that a company like AmEx tries to position itself as a business-friendly helper and advisor, yet its own operations are so profoundly screwed up.
Mark Pilipczuk - Posted on January 29, 2008
Thank you for another interesting article.

I've found AmEx to be troubling since 1993 or so. Pity I wasn't around to experience the glory days.

I've always liked the idea of having and using an AmEx card, but their execution has always let me down. My first experience was in 1993 as a new manager, moving up the corporate ladder at IMP in Stamford, when I signed up for an AmEx gold card. I'd made it!

Imagine my horror at the very first use of the card when, in attempting to pay for a team luncheon totaling perhaps $150, the card was declined. Luckily, I had another card with which to pay.

I was so incensed, I called AmEx and cancelled that very day. No apologies were offered over the phone nor was any attempt made to keep my business.

I tried a few years later and had exactly the same experience, although I forget the details.

I've since given up on AmEx. They haven't given up on me, however, mailing both myself and my wife 3 to 4 times per month.

Unfortunately, none of the cards are for a product I would even consider (a Platinum card). They stick with plebian products like the Blue Sky card.

Think they're trying to tell me something?
Lee Marc Stein - Posted on January 29, 2008
Denny,

I'm sorry that American Express has marked your record on its database as "Torture this person."

I have always received what I expected from American Express. I don't expect birthday or anniversary cards. I expect service.

Recently they called me (just like Tina Fey in the TV spots) to ask if I had charged $1414 in airline tickets to Chile. I told them no and they said they didn't think so and that someone got ahold of my number fraudulently. There would be no problem. They would cancel my card # immediately and FedEx out a new card to arrive within 24 hours. As they confirmed my address, they indeed thanked me for being a Gold Card holder for 25 years. The card arrived right on schedule.

That's worth more to me than a lot of empty "Thank you's".

The fact that their service matches their brand advertising on TV -- that I am actually treated the same way as Tina Fey, even though I'm not nearly as funny (or rich) is comforting.