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Studies in Command-2: Gen. Ann E. Dunwoody

A woman crashes through the brass ceiling

Vol. 4, Issue No. 67 | December 4, 2008 By Denny Hatch
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IN THE NEWS

Dunwoody becomes first female four-star general

WASHINGTON — Call it breaking the brass ceiling. Ann E. Dunwoody, after 33 years in the Army, ascended Friday to a peak never before reached by a woman in the U.S. military: four-star general. At an emotional promotion ceremony, Dunwoody looked back on her years in uniform and said it was a credit to the Army — and a great surprise to her — that she would make history in a male-dominated military. "Thirty-three years after I took the oath as a second lieutenant, I have to tell you this is not exactly how I envisioned my life unfolding," she told a standing-room-only auditorium crowd. "Even as a young kid, all I ever wanted to do was teach physical education and raise a family. It was clear to me that my Army experience was just going to be a two-year detour en route to my fitness profession," she added. "So when asked, 'Ann, did you ever think you were going to be a general officer, to say nothing about a four-star?' I say, 'Not in my wildest dreams.'"
—Robert Burns, military writer, Associated Press, Nov. 14, 2008


The Army System vs. Private Industry
What's remarkable about the Army is a promotion and mentoring system that should be adopted by American business.

When you join the Army—as a humble recruit or a plebe at West Point—you start at the bottom of the food chain. After basic training, you report for duty somewhere. Above you are men and women who teach you skills. They started out just like you and were taught by those above them. When you're promoted, you're put in charge of those who came after you and teach them what you know. Meanwhile, you're learning more about your craft from those over you. The military mentoring system is very precise and continues as you move up the ranks—all the way to general officers. 

Nothing like this exists in most American businesses.

In my first 12 years in business after getting out of the Army in 1960, I had nine jobs—several lasting less than a month. In some cases, I was shown my office—a cubicle with a desk, chair, phone and typewriter—and expected to go to work. Sometimes I would work with a new colleague to see how the job was to be done and who in the company to see about getting this or that implemented. At other places, I was handed a men’s room key, a list of names and phone numbers, and told to get started.

I've heard that Procter & Gamble has a magnificent system for training new employees. The newbies not only learn the specifics of the job for which they're hired, but also the corporate culture, philosophy and history of its business going back to its founding in 1837 by William Procter and James Gamble.

For every P&G, there must be a thousand companies—especially smaller companies run by autocratic, horrendously overworked executives—that take new employees, throw them against the wall and hope some stick. A large percentage of new hires are set up for failure from day one. The result: Tens of thousands of dollars are lost in the hiring process and millions more wasted in lost opportunities.

Those who survive the pigeonholing have basically a single skill and little interest or tolerance of other areas of the organization.

“Whoever knows only one direct marketing skill,” freelancer Martin Gross once wrote me, “whether it’s art direction, copywriting or list management, does not even know that properly.”

I believe this applies to any industry, any organization. Look at the mess when bean counters make marketing decisions, or when CEOs who came up through sales start critiquing direct mail packages or making media selections.

Gen. Ann Dunwoody is multifaceted. In the course of her 33-year career, Dunwoody—like all officers in the U.S. military—was moved into line jobs and desk jobs around the country and the world. She has jumped out of airplanes, was a parachute officer in Operation Desert Shield, earned two Masters of Science degrees, and held myriad commands throughout the Army.

Army personnel are soldiers first and foremost.

Ann E. Dunwoody, the Ultimate Role Model
I believe capable women can do anything that capable men can do and should not only get equal opportunity, but also equal pay. So it was with great pleasure that I watched the promotion ceremony and swearing in of Ann Dunwoody as the Army’s first female four-star general on C-SPAN.

“This afternoon, [Ann Dunwoody] will take the reins of Army Materiel Command—one of our largest commands and a Fortune 100-sized organization with almost 130,000 men and women scattered across the globe in about 150 different locations,” said Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey in his introduction.

What is Gen. Dunwoody in charge of? The motto of her organization:If a soldier shoots it, drives it, flies it, wears it, communicates with it or eats it—AMC provides it.”

Following short speeches by Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Gen. Casey, the four stars were pinned on Gen. Dunwoody’s shoulders by Gen. Casey and her big, bald-headed bear of a husband of 19 years, Col. Craig Brotchie, USAF (retired). After being sworn in, she stepped to the podium and addressed the standing-room only assemblage that included her 89-year-old father, a large contingent of family from all over the country and a “who’s who” of the U.S. Army.

Ann Dunwoody radiates competence and enthusiasm. It's clear she's at ease in her own skin, and she can be very funny. A sampling of her remarks that drew no less than four standing ovations:

As you heard, dad's a West Point class of 1943; and his dad, Halsey, was West Point class of 1905; and his granddad, Henry, was West Point class of 1866. Now you understand why people think I have olive drab blood. As Gen. Casey said, my dad was wounded both in World War II and Korean War, and was the recipient of two Purple Hearts, and recognized for valor with a Distinguished Service Cross. When people talk to him about his two Purple Hearts, he's quick to say he was just a slow learner. But we all know better. And dad, I'm grateful for this opportunity to say thanks for your service to our nation and for instilling in me the timeless values of integrity, courage, and sense of values. And I know most of my success is founded in what I learned from you as a dad, as a patriot, and as a soldier.

There is no one more surprised than I, except of course my husband. You know what they say—behind every successful woman, there’s an astonished man.

But my husband, Craig, is the reason I'm still here. I met Craig 21 years ago when we were students at CGSC [Command and General Staff School], and for those of you who know Craig, you know we did not meet in the library.

It’s as overwhelming as it is humbling, especially for somebody who thought fifth grade was the best three years of her life.

I never grew up in an environment where I even heard of the words “glass ceiling.” You could always be anything you wanted to be if you worked hard, and so I never felt constrained. I never felt like there were limitations on what I could do.

I joined the Army right out of college. I got a direct commission as a Second Lieutenant with a two-year commitment. The offer was too good to refuse. They paid me 500 dollars a month during my senior year in college, and they sent me to Airborne School. I couldn't believe they were going to pay me to jump out of airplanes.

This promotion has taken me back in time like no other event in my entire life. And I didn't appreciate the enormity of the events until tidal waves of cards, letters, and e-mails started coming my way. And I've heard from men and women, from every branch of service, from every region of our country, and every corner of the world. I've heard from moms and dads who see this promotion as a beacon of hope for their own daughters and affirmation that anything is possible through hard work and commitment. And I've heard from women veterans of all wars, many who just wanted to say congratulations; some who just wanted to say thanks; and still others who just wanted to say they were so happy this day had finally come.

The next day, she held a press conference. Instead of marching up to the podium to take questions, she came down into the audience and personally greeted each member of the media with a handshake and a smile.

Another Woman Executive
While watching Gen. Dunwoody in action, I thought of another high-powered woman executive, Carly Fiorina, former president of Hewlett-Packard, who most recently made headlines as adviser to John McCain’s presidential campaign.

Where Ann Dunwoody’s Army pay is roughly $212,000 a year, the flashy, fast-talking Fiorina’s 2004 package at Hewlett-Packard was $3.1 million. When she was fired, Fiorina’s golden parachute was $42 million, while stockholders took a beating.

It's fascinating to compare Ann Dunwoody’s public persona with that of Carly Fiorina’s.

Below is a series of hyperlinks to Ann Dunwoody—her promotion ceremony and press conference—and another to Carly Fiorina telling Andrea Mitchell of NBC that neither John McCain nor Sarah Palin nor Barack Obama nor Joe Biden were competent to run a major corporation.

McCain instantly fired Fiorina.

On the surface, which of these two is worth $3 million a year and a $42 million parting gift?

“Even though I thought I was only coming in the Army for two years,” Gen. Dunwoody told her audience, “I now know from the day I first donned my uniform, soldiering is all I ever wanted to do.”


Takeaway Points to Consider

  • What happens when a person joins your organization? Is some sort of mentoring system in place, or is the newbie shown a desk, phone and computer, then thrown to the wolves?
  • If no one has time to spend with a new associate, are you not setting that person up for failure?
  • “Whoever knows only one direct marketing skill, whether it’s art direction, copywriting or list management, does not even know that properly.”
    —Martin Gross
  • Are your associates—superiors, colleagues and subordinates—conversant with all areas of your business? For example, has a bean counter ever gone on a sales call? Have any of your sales people sat in on a budget meeting? If not, why not?
  • Finally, consider Gen. Ann Dunwoody’s 33 years in study and preparation for this extraordinary responsibility vs. Barack Obama, who has 75 days to grow into the presidency.

Web Sites Related to Today's Edition

Dunwoody Promotion Story
http://tinyurl.com/6rhsjz

Dunwoody Promotion Ceremony—47:31 minutes
http://tinyurl.com/6g646y

Transcript of Dunwoody Speech
http://tinyurl.com/6elonf

Dunwoody's First Press Conference
http://cspanjunkie.org/?p=1098

Ann Dunwoody’s Career—Official Biography
http://tinyurl.com/6abgm6

Carly Fiorina claims candidates incapable of running a company
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnBXXssj0KY


 

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Bilou - Posted on September 22, 2009
Denny –

I don’t mean to take away ANYTHING from these women’s accomplishments (Gen. Dunwoody or Sgt. Maj. King, who you tweeted about), but I’m surprised that you can’t identify a PR job better when you see one, since you’re in the biz. Usually you do a better job of research than that. It’s no accident that both these women hyped up how the military offers SO MUCH to women, career-wise, considering the bad press they’ve gotten of late. You played right into their hands by telling the world how women have “great opportunities” to move forward in the military…simply by working hard and getting rewarded.

Yeah, right.

http://bit.ly/MilitarySexAbuseCNN
http://bit.ly/MilitarySexAssaultEpidemicABC
http://bit.ly/MilitarySexAssaultMSNBC
Tom Cannon - Posted on December 09, 2008
Denny,
Great column; reminded me of my 21 years of active duty (1973-1994) when the jobs open to women began to expand significantly. I retired as a Lieutenant Colonel, but as I said at my retirement, "from a promotion and rank standpoint, I have had one level of success, but from a sense of accomplishing important things, and working with, leading, and learning from people of exceptional character and integrity, I have enjoyed a much higher level of success and honors; of a type rarely found in our lives these days." That is the Army that General Dunwoody and I served in during our careers. Now our challenge is to start refocusing the human and material resources of our military to goals of peace while leaving enough to guard against potential enemies. That will take all of us working together as we seek the better angels of our nature.
Tom Cannon
Wes Scales - Posted on December 04, 2008
All the Way! -AIRBORNE!!

This is just great, Gen. Dunwoody was my Battalion Commander at Ft. Bragg and I had the honor of being her driver for 2 years.

As any hard-core paratrooper would admit it seemed strange at first knowing you were the only unit in the entire 82d ABN DIV to be commanded by a female. But, I have to say she did her job just as any soldier would be expected. I learned at 19 years of age that actions do speak louder than words no matter who you are.

Unfortunately, many people get positions more from who they know than what they've done.

It was an honor to serve with a great soldier and woman. She like all great leaders helped inspire us all to do better.
Wash Phillips - Posted on December 04, 2008
Kudoes to the General, deserved.

And to Denny for finding her a good example businee could take note of.

To commenter Kim, beware the cult of personality. I voted for Obama but realize the man has yet to walk on water. Let's hope we can all applaud our ballot box choices one year hence. Until then I wish him good luck with my future.
Judy Smath - Posted on December 04, 2008
It is very unfortunate that mentoring and proper job training and advancement opportunities are not the norm in corporate American for either women OR men. We live in a time when layoffs are more common than promotions and there's no time for training when you are left with one person to do the job that five people used to do. All in all, we are just lucky to have a job. Period. It's very sad.
D - Posted on December 04, 2008
Dear Denny,

Great article about an inspirational leader. I wish I had thought more about mentoring in my early years with our company.

Denny McGregor

p.s.--Not sure what has Kim so upset. Your point about experience, especially when we are talking about the most complicated and responsible job description on the planet, is well taken.
Chris Fitz - Posted on December 04, 2008
I have to feel sorry for Kim who's hyper-sensitivity to any criticism about Obama is on the facts unwarranted, much like previous readers had expressed toward criticism of McCain during the campaign. The fact is, our presidential election structure (regardless of WHO!) doesn't award the position based on merit or specific training. Maybe that's good. I happen to think in 2008, we're finally fortunate that Americans chose the way they did. Still, Obama MUST HEAR CRITICISM if he is going to grow as a leader (we just saw the results of an administration closed to outside ideas) and so must disciples like Kim if they are to grow as engaged citizens.

On this point, i think the military's model of leadership is pretty flawed. What is the system by which the military learns to take the view from the margins and if need be, disband itself (or parts) in the face of obsolescence? Military culture of the kind Gen. Dunwoody spoke (the generations before her) helps perpetuate the institution wholly apart from its actual usefulness. A good case study is the SAC patch loyalty that saw rebellion in USAF ranks over the past decade. Dudes - we don't need all those NUKES! We need intelligence, diplomacy and perhaps some very choice placement of force. So to such military disciples, i say, go retire off my taxes, sit down and let a bureaucrat who's actually doing good in the world come to the head of the class. Maybe that's Dunwoody, but i hope to see America's trillion dollar military (half of the total military spending in the ENTIRE WORLD!) make a lot more structural innovation than gender diversity in the coming years. See also: http://tinyurl.com/4ucbrl
Brent D. Gardner - Posted on December 04, 2008
I wonder if Kim has been openly supporting our current President for the last 8 years? I'll wager a dollar she hasn't.

Thank you for writing this story, Denny. I'm sharing it with everyone I know today.
Kirk Ward - Posted on December 04, 2008
I thought this was an inspiring story. I also thought the reaction of "Kim" was childish. Politics aside, Obama is inexperienced and does have only a limited amount of time to prepare for his job.

But, then her response is like many other of his spoiled supporters. "If you don't play my way, I'll take my ball and go home."

Kirk
Kim - Posted on December 04, 2008
I cancelled my subscription today because Denny Hatch is using his "Business Common Sense" as a political forum against Barack Obama. The story about Dunwoody is good, but again he slammed Obama.

I did not subscribe to a political commentary. Derogatory comments about Obama like Denny's, especially in the media, influence the masses and contribute to holding this country back from change and progress -- change achieved through negotiation skills and the willingness to question the system.

Pooh on Denny.

I encourage you, Denny, to take a supportive view of Obama. If citizens do not support their leader, what sort of message are we sending to the global community? Particularly, terrorists who prey upon any weakness they can find in American government.
JIM BELL - Posted on December 04, 2008
GREAT STORY !

MAKES US BETTER UNDERSTAND GENERAL MOTORS' PROBLEMS & MAKES US EVEN MORE NERVOUS ABOUT PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP
Darren Somsen - Posted on December 04, 2008
Dear Denny,

I have a dear friend who married a 2nd Lt. who was finishing college, paid for by her ROTC commitment. 15 years later Jeanne is a colonel in the USAF who's dedication will see her rise much higher. When deployed to Kuwait she went with her troops on convoys into Iraq. Her orders did not require this, but her commitment to her troops did. She respects the men and women in her command, and they respect her. I cannot express strong enough admiration for Jeanne, her dedication to her troops, or her dedication to her Country. By working her way up as Gen. Dunwoody has, Jeanne has a clear understanding of how her command must operate and she leads it smartly and intelligently.

If Jeanne were to lead a civilian company, I would proudly follow. Many companies could benefit from the leaders in the U.S. military. Not one were "made" officers, they all earned it. Perhaps graduating MBA's should be required to start in the mailroom.
Ken Kraetzer - Posted on December 04, 2008
Denny:

Great story about Gen. Ann Dunwoody, a true leader, shows the power of enthusiasm, and taking responsibility. Gen Dunwoody said it well, if her organization doesn't do its job, there will soldiers out defending the country without the tools they need to do the job.

Have to admit, my Dad who was an Army officer for 20 years coming out of WWII, never liked umbrellas either. I'll miss not taking him to the Army Navy game this Saturday which we did a couple of times in the 90s.

Another thing about Army guys, they never complain, looks bad to those they lead. Drs. really had to pry comments out of my Dad about what might be hurting him.

We have spent a fair amount of time with the Army and Navy this year, military people are very impressive. In an era of an all-Volunteer Military they know how to lead in a positive way, they take on tough assignments, and are very matter of fact about it. Problem today is that there are not enough of them. Less than one percent of the population serves in the military and less than 10% of the public are veterans.

I have been having fun in my volunteer work for the Sons of the American Legion with a regular radio show heard on WVOX.com discussing military support topics. We have had call-ins from soldiers serving overseas on recent holidays. Recordings are posted on www.legionpost50ny.com

Best regards,

Ken

Kenneth G. Kraetzer
Vice President
CBSI
550 Mamaroneck Avenue, Harrison, New York 10528 USA
Annie Wilson - Posted on December 04, 2008
I'm simply all choked up. Smart, funny, determined - female! I'm sending this to my nieces... you CAN do it!
Carol Magnuson - Posted on December 04, 2008
As soon as I read this, my eyes filled with tears, and I stood and saluted this great woman.

I was among some of the first females trained for combat in the US Army, some 28 years ago. We struggled mightily against the male angst that manifested in put-downs, derision, and negative assumptions about our sexuality.

I am VERY proud to be a veteran of the US Army. It taught me courage, determination and revealed a strength I never knew I possessed.

The day is coming when men will finally recognize, and accept the enormous strengths and abilities women possess. Fortunately, after thousands of years, we have learned to be patient.
BP - Posted on December 04, 2008
Well, I for one am darn glad Gen Dunwoodie will be running AMC and not Ms. Fiorina.
Great story!
Lauren - Posted on December 04, 2008
Denny-
As a woman, your article touched me... way to go Ann! Gen. Dunwoody is just one more example of my belief that women are just as capable of men. Thank you for recognizing that, Denny!
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Bilou - Posted on September 22, 2009
Denny –

I don’t mean to take away ANYTHING from these women’s accomplishments (Gen. Dunwoody or Sgt. Maj. King, who you tweeted about), but I’m surprised that you can’t identify a PR job better when you see one, since you’re in the biz. Usually you do a better job of research than that. It’s no accident that both these women hyped up how the military offers SO MUCH to women, career-wise, considering the bad press they’ve gotten of late. You played right into their hands by telling the world how women have “great opportunities” to move forward in the military…simply by working hard and getting rewarded.

Yeah, right.

http://bit.ly/MilitarySexAbuseCNN
http://bit.ly/MilitarySexAssaultEpidemicABC
http://bit.ly/MilitarySexAssaultMSNBC
Tom Cannon - Posted on December 09, 2008
Denny,
Great column; reminded me of my 21 years of active duty (1973-1994) when the jobs open to women began to expand significantly. I retired as a Lieutenant Colonel, but as I said at my retirement, "from a promotion and rank standpoint, I have had one level of success, but from a sense of accomplishing important things, and working with, leading, and learning from people of exceptional character and integrity, I have enjoyed a much higher level of success and honors; of a type rarely found in our lives these days." That is the Army that General Dunwoody and I served in during our careers. Now our challenge is to start refocusing the human and material resources of our military to goals of peace while leaving enough to guard against potential enemies. That will take all of us working together as we seek the better angels of our nature.
Tom Cannon
Wes Scales - Posted on December 04, 2008
All the Way! -AIRBORNE!!

This is just great, Gen. Dunwoody was my Battalion Commander at Ft. Bragg and I had the honor of being her driver for 2 years.

As any hard-core paratrooper would admit it seemed strange at first knowing you were the only unit in the entire 82d ABN DIV to be commanded by a female. But, I have to say she did her job just as any soldier would be expected. I learned at 19 years of age that actions do speak louder than words no matter who you are.

Unfortunately, many people get positions more from who they know than what they've done.

It was an honor to serve with a great soldier and woman. She like all great leaders helped inspire us all to do better.
Wash Phillips - Posted on December 04, 2008
Kudoes to the General, deserved.

And to Denny for finding her a good example businee could take note of.

To commenter Kim, beware the cult of personality. I voted for Obama but realize the man has yet to walk on water. Let's hope we can all applaud our ballot box choices one year hence. Until then I wish him good luck with my future.
Judy Smath - Posted on December 04, 2008
It is very unfortunate that mentoring and proper job training and advancement opportunities are not the norm in corporate American for either women OR men. We live in a time when layoffs are more common than promotions and there's no time for training when you are left with one person to do the job that five people used to do. All in all, we are just lucky to have a job. Period. It's very sad.
D - Posted on December 04, 2008
Dear Denny,

Great article about an inspirational leader. I wish I had thought more about mentoring in my early years with our company.

Denny McGregor

p.s.--Not sure what has Kim so upset. Your point about experience, especially when we are talking about the most complicated and responsible job description on the planet, is well taken.
Chris Fitz - Posted on December 04, 2008
I have to feel sorry for Kim who's hyper-sensitivity to any criticism about Obama is on the facts unwarranted, much like previous readers had expressed toward criticism of McCain during the campaign. The fact is, our presidential election structure (regardless of WHO!) doesn't award the position based on merit or specific training. Maybe that's good. I happen to think in 2008, we're finally fortunate that Americans chose the way they did. Still, Obama MUST HEAR CRITICISM if he is going to grow as a leader (we just saw the results of an administration closed to outside ideas) and so must disciples like Kim if they are to grow as engaged citizens.

On this point, i think the military's model of leadership is pretty flawed. What is the system by which the military learns to take the view from the margins and if need be, disband itself (or parts) in the face of obsolescence? Military culture of the kind Gen. Dunwoody spoke (the generations before her) helps perpetuate the institution wholly apart from its actual usefulness. A good case study is the SAC patch loyalty that saw rebellion in USAF ranks over the past decade. Dudes - we don't need all those NUKES! We need intelligence, diplomacy and perhaps some very choice placement of force. So to such military disciples, i say, go retire off my taxes, sit down and let a bureaucrat who's actually doing good in the world come to the head of the class. Maybe that's Dunwoody, but i hope to see America's trillion dollar military (half of the total military spending in the ENTIRE WORLD!) make a lot more structural innovation than gender diversity in the coming years. See also: http://tinyurl.com/4ucbrl
Brent D. Gardner - Posted on December 04, 2008
I wonder if Kim has been openly supporting our current President for the last 8 years? I'll wager a dollar she hasn't.

Thank you for writing this story, Denny. I'm sharing it with everyone I know today.
Kirk Ward - Posted on December 04, 2008
I thought this was an inspiring story. I also thought the reaction of "Kim" was childish. Politics aside, Obama is inexperienced and does have only a limited amount of time to prepare for his job.

But, then her response is like many other of his spoiled supporters. "If you don't play my way, I'll take my ball and go home."

Kirk
Kim - Posted on December 04, 2008
I cancelled my subscription today because Denny Hatch is using his "Business Common Sense" as a political forum against Barack Obama. The story about Dunwoody is good, but again he slammed Obama.

I did not subscribe to a political commentary. Derogatory comments about Obama like Denny's, especially in the media, influence the masses and contribute to holding this country back from change and progress -- change achieved through negotiation skills and the willingness to question the system.

Pooh on Denny.

I encourage you, Denny, to take a supportive view of Obama. If citizens do not support their leader, what sort of message are we sending to the global community? Particularly, terrorists who prey upon any weakness they can find in American government.
JIM BELL - Posted on December 04, 2008
GREAT STORY !

MAKES US BETTER UNDERSTAND GENERAL MOTORS' PROBLEMS & MAKES US EVEN MORE NERVOUS ABOUT PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP
Darren Somsen - Posted on December 04, 2008
Dear Denny,

I have a dear friend who married a 2nd Lt. who was finishing college, paid for by her ROTC commitment. 15 years later Jeanne is a colonel in the USAF who's dedication will see her rise much higher. When deployed to Kuwait she went with her troops on convoys into Iraq. Her orders did not require this, but her commitment to her troops did. She respects the men and women in her command, and they respect her. I cannot express strong enough admiration for Jeanne, her dedication to her troops, or her dedication to her Country. By working her way up as Gen. Dunwoody has, Jeanne has a clear understanding of how her command must operate and she leads it smartly and intelligently.

If Jeanne were to lead a civilian company, I would proudly follow. Many companies could benefit from the leaders in the U.S. military. Not one were "made" officers, they all earned it. Perhaps graduating MBA's should be required to start in the mailroom.
Ken Kraetzer - Posted on December 04, 2008
Denny:

Great story about Gen. Ann Dunwoody, a true leader, shows the power of enthusiasm, and taking responsibility. Gen Dunwoody said it well, if her organization doesn't do its job, there will soldiers out defending the country without the tools they need to do the job.

Have to admit, my Dad who was an Army officer for 20 years coming out of WWII, never liked umbrellas either. I'll miss not taking him to the Army Navy game this Saturday which we did a couple of times in the 90s.

Another thing about Army guys, they never complain, looks bad to those they lead. Drs. really had to pry comments out of my Dad about what might be hurting him.

We have spent a fair amount of time with the Army and Navy this year, military people are very impressive. In an era of an all-Volunteer Military they know how to lead in a positive way, they take on tough assignments, and are very matter of fact about it. Problem today is that there are not enough of them. Less than one percent of the population serves in the military and less than 10% of the public are veterans.

I have been having fun in my volunteer work for the Sons of the American Legion with a regular radio show heard on WVOX.com discussing military support topics. We have had call-ins from soldiers serving overseas on recent holidays. Recordings are posted on www.legionpost50ny.com

Best regards,

Ken

Kenneth G. Kraetzer
Vice President
CBSI
550 Mamaroneck Avenue, Harrison, New York 10528 USA
Annie Wilson - Posted on December 04, 2008
I'm simply all choked up. Smart, funny, determined - female! I'm sending this to my nieces... you CAN do it!
Carol Magnuson - Posted on December 04, 2008
As soon as I read this, my eyes filled with tears, and I stood and saluted this great woman.

I was among some of the first females trained for combat in the US Army, some 28 years ago. We struggled mightily against the male angst that manifested in put-downs, derision, and negative assumptions about our sexuality.

I am VERY proud to be a veteran of the US Army. It taught me courage, determination and revealed a strength I never knew I possessed.

The day is coming when men will finally recognize, and accept the enormous strengths and abilities women possess. Fortunately, after thousands of years, we have learned to be patient.
BP - Posted on December 04, 2008
Well, I for one am darn glad Gen Dunwoodie will be running AMC and not Ms. Fiorina.
Great story!
Lauren - Posted on December 04, 2008
Denny-
As a woman, your article touched me... way to go Ann! Gen. Dunwoody is just one more example of my belief that women are just as capable of men. Thank you for recognizing that, Denny!